In my series of A to Z of statues I have already been twice to Liberty Square in Budapest.
First for Imre Nagi who led the Hungarian uprising of 1956 (since removed by the way by the Hungarian Nationalist Government of Viktor Orban in case it offends his Soviet pal Vladimir Putin) and secondly for Louis Kossuth who led the 1948 revolution against the Austrian Empire.
This time I am here for a statue of Ronald Reagan who is held in high regard in Hungary and elsewhere in Eastern Europe for his opposition to Russian control of Eastern Europe and his role in breaking up the Soviet bloc and Communist control of Eastern Europe.
The header picture is a street named in his honour in the Polish town of Nowa Huta near Prague.
In 2018 I stayed overnight in a hotel in Thetford in Norfolk and got to stay in the Ronald Reagan room…
Removing Ronald Reagan from Liberty Square might be a step to far for Viktor Orban.
Ronald Reagan it seems is curiously popular. 2003 in a television USA viewers voted him the Greatest American of all time and in terms of Presidents alone that was ahead of George Washington, Abraham Lincoln and Franklin D Roosevelt and John Kennedy.
It makes me think about Mount Rushmore.
If they were doing it again now (2021) who would be the fab four I wonder. Washington and Lincoln I predict would still be there but Franklin Roosevelt would replace Teddy Roosevelt and Ronald would cruise in and most likely replace Thomas Jefferson.
At this time a lot of countries used a similar format to determine the greatest whoever.
There were also some odd results elsewhere, Russia voted for Josef Stalin (responsible for an estimated 60 million deaths), France for Charles de Gaulle instead of Napoleon or Louis XIV, Portugal for Antonio Salazar (a dictator), Spain for King Juan Carlos (now disgraced) and Canada for someone called Tommy Douglas who turned out to be Scottish. German viewers bypassed Otto Von Bismarck (voting for Adolf Hitler was not allowed) and voted post-war Chancellor Konrad Adenauer as the greatest German of all time.
Two predictable votes were Winston Churchill in the UK and Nelson Mandela in South Africa. In India voting for Mahatma Ghandi was not permitted on the basis that he would so easily win so it would be a pointless contest. The winner was B. R. Ambedkar, the ‘founding father of the Republic of India’.
In New Zealand viewers voted for the physicist Ernest Rutherford. In nearby Australia they had a hard time getting a short list of fifty and about 50% of those included were sportsmen. Personally I would have voted for Richie Benaud but the Australian public went instead for the bush poet Andrew “Banjo” Patterson famous for many things down under but mostly for the song “Waltzing Matilda”.
How would it go now in England? Any suggestions?
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There are statues of six American presidents in London, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Franklin D Roosevelt , Dwight D Eisenhower, John F Kennedy and Ronald Reagan. I am not aware of any calls to have them removed.
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I meant, which English PM would be voted for since the war.
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There is a lot of hostile debate about Margaret Thatcher. She has one now in her home town of Grantham. I would happily pull that one down.
There is a statue of Churchill of course but I don’t any of the others deserve one.
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Margaret Thatcher was the person who brought together Reagan and Gorbachev and laid the foundations of the end of the Soviet bloc. She broke the power of the unions and prevented England turning into East Germany. She saved the Falklands from a despotic military dictatorship and showed millions of women that they were just as competent as men, and could run businesses if they wanted to.
I would still give the award to Clement Attlee, though, who rebuilt Britain after the war. A truly great prime minister who carried out so many reforms that the voters wanted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_Attlee
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Thank you John. That is well constructed argument devoid of person bias. Thanks.
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Dreadful woman.
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I am sorry but I am not a Thatcher fan at all. Destroyed our engineering heritage, sold off state assets and lined the pockets of the rich. Dreadful woman.
Clement Atlee is a possible I suppose.
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There was talk in some circles (not perfect circles by any means) of adding Donald to Mt. Rushmore. Although, now that it has been turned back to the Native American tribe with claims to the mountain, it may be wiped of even the current visages.
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I’ll check if Ronnie’s still there when I’m in Budapest at the start of October.
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My guess is yes, he is still there. Let’s see.
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😎
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RR the Gipper a great men and still is in my book. We need more like him today!
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Is there a statue of him in France?
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nahh we only do the ancient ones lol! that way they dont compete with De Gaulle!
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A bizarre choice of ‘Greatest Frenchman’
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Pantheon soon Josephine Baker!
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My late husband would have had something to say about removing Margaret Thatcher he had the utmost respect for her achievements, perfectly said by jfwknifton.
I remember being ‘gob-smacked when the film star Ronald Reagan, became president. Since then I’ve come to realise that a lot of Americans are star-struck and that seems to override everything else. Donald Trump springs to mind, the awful Meghan Markle woman and her traitor husband Prince Harry, and let’s not forget James Cordon. We’re all open-mouthed wondering what on earth America sees in him!
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I am sorry but I am not a Thatcher fan at all. Destroyed our engineering heritage, sold off state assets and lined the pockets of the rich. Dreadful woman.
It seems some countries have more respect for RR than perhaps we do,
Prince Harry is a puppet with the cunning Markle pulling his strings.
I haven’t really got an opinion on James Corden but I am not a fan.
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Haha, yes, I kind of guessed you weren’t a fan of Maggie. I wasn’t as bias as my husband, I saw the negative aspects as well as the positive. And anyway, I couldn’t stand her voice! (No logic there is there?)
I totally agree with you about Prince Harry.
Cordon’s fame in America is bizarre, over here he was so nondescript and now most of us cannot understand how and why he is so popular over there.
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His popularity is as bizarre as that of Ant and Dec!
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Fascinating post and thank you for not choosing Ronaldo’s statue!
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Or Ronald McDonald
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Fascinating – especially enlightening about Ronald Reagan
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There are statues of Ronald in Prague, Tbilisi, Warsaw, Berlin and London. Maybe he was the Greatest American?
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Maybe
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Interesting post, Andrew! Are you in Budapest now? Have you seen the bronze sets of shoes by the Danube River? Apparently, they represent people shot there who then fell into the river. I’d love to see a photo of that!
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I am not in Budapest, it is a few years since I visited…
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Thanks for sending this photo, Andrew!
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Anyone planning any statues of Our Present Incumbent here in the UK? I trust not …
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Very unlikely.
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One thing we haven’t mentioned in our current posts is the graffiti we regularly saw on the Greece mainland, but not so much on the islands since Crete. Lots of very pointed praise of a particular Englishman…often with the words “good guy” preceding his name….
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You will have to tell me who?
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I have a distinct feeling that you won’t be over impressed with this. Try “GOOD GUY BORIS” graffiti’d many times over. We also saw wall art depicting the EU as the Grim Reaper so it’s not hard to work out the theme!
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That is astonishing!
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And then there’s a mural in Thessaloniki depicting Angela Merkel as a pig, being stabbed to death by a man carrying a Greek flag…!
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Strange. They tricked their way into the EU with scandalous false accounting and then blame everyone else for their woes.
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Moreover, they borrowed crippling amounts of EU money and now the Greek people blame the EU for their economic crash – brought on by the audacity of lenders to ask for their money back!!! Nevertheless we were still surprised by the quantity of pro Boris graffiti!
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Perhaps we could send him to Athens and we can get ourselves a proper Prime Minister.
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Not a huge number of candidates unfortunately
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So sad, so true. Do you think Ant and Dec could do it as a partnership PM.
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I do not. John Cleese would have been a good shout though….
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Surely Michael Palin would be so much better.
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Too smiley!
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I don’t suppose it could be Greek irony (re Boris), could it?
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I’d like to think so.
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